Episode 56

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6th Nov 2024

Marked for Life, with Isaac Wright, Jr.

Isaac Wright, Jr. successfully fought his own wrongful conviction to life in prison, and has spent years since clearing his own name as well as those of other inmates in similar circumstances. Hear the incredible story of how he fought the system from within and prevailed, and how he has used that knowledge to not only cement himself a legal legacy, but used it to clear and preserve the legacies of countless others.

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Welcome everybody. My name is Gary Michels. I'm the

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host of Let's Talk Legacy, but I'm really excited about our

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guest today. Isaac Wright, Jr. He's an attorney, a businessman,

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a philanthropist, someone who successfully fought a wrongful

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conviction to life in prison and has worked ever since to clear

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the legacies of others under similar circumstances. Let's set

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the scene for our listeners. By the late 80s, you were a talent

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manager and owned an independent record label, while your wife,

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at the time, was a member of the platinum selling group, which

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you co founded, called the Covergirls. This all ended in

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1989 when you were charged with being the mastermind behind one

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of the largest drug distribution networks in the country and

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convicted to life in prison, but you didn't do it right? First of

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all, tell us what it was like to have your life just broken down

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in the blink of an eye, just like that.

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Isaac Wright Jr: You know, it's, uh, it's always, every time I I

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reflect on that, it I always feel something different. This

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is something that never leaves you, and it has so many

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dimensions to it, emotionally that every time you reflect, you

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get a little bit more deeper in your reflection than you were

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before the expediency in which you lose everything. I mean,

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there's just saying that, you know, it takes a lifetime, you

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know, to build a legacy and only five minutes to, you know, to

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tear it down, but when that is the result of the actions of

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someone else, it's hard to express the devastation that you

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experience, because you're not only experiencing your

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devastation, you're experiencing the devastation of the people

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around you, the people that love you, the people that you love.

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Well, what happened? So what's important to explain is how

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things were like in law enforcement and in criminal

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justice during those times. By the time the 1980s came around,

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you had a number of programs starting from probably the 40s

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or 50s, and they glorified police culture. You know, if you

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go back and you look at cops in the 80s and 90s, you will see on

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TV some of the most egregious violation of constitutional

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rights right there in front of you, but people didn't think

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about it at that time, because cops were so glorified, it

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became a culture of glorification through the media.

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And so they could tell no lie if a cop said at that time that the

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sky was yellow, the general public believe that the sky was

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yellow, and so during the time that this happened to me, I

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lived as a young man at the apex of that culture, and I was in

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the music business. Hip hop has always been the foundation of

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hip hop as a street and one of the things that makes hip hop a

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national phenomenon, something that that wows the world, is its

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connection to violence, its connection to the street. Even

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though these rappers are are telling stories about

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themselves. Most of the is not true, but they're telling true

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stories about others. What happens when you're in hip hop

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is you're not disconnected to that element. You know, if you

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have a if you have a hip hop artist that has an entourage of

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15 people, I can guarantee you that five of those guys are

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criminals. What happened is, is that we're out in a skate rink.

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I have an entourage with me. Police were investigating

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another individual that was actually friends of someone that

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was in my entourage, who I who I knew loosely. I didn't really he

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wasn't a close friend of mine, but I knew him loosely. The

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police is following him, and the police sees an indication of our

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wealth. You know, the jury, the whole thing I was, you know, I

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was very successful of selling a lot of records with making a lot

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of money. So they're taking pictures. They're taking

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pictures of everybody there. When they they follow this guy,

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they're taking pictures of everybody he's associating with.

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The prosecutor saw that, and I became his target. That's how I

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came under the radar. And at that point, my fate was sealed.

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Even even after I was arrested, they tried to distort me out of

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a half a million dollars. It was the moment when they they didn't

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find any money, and I refused to cooperate, when it was like,

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okay, then we're going to send you to prison for the rest of

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your life. And it was from that moment forward where they

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started accumulating false evidence against me.

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So while you were serving your sentence and you

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began to self educate yourself on the law, from working as a

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prison paralegal, helping other inmates in their cases and

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working on your own case, that whole time, seven and a half

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years, you were living side by side with some, some pretty,

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probably some tough criminals. How did you stay focused on your

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work and determined and hopeful?

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Isaac Wright Jr: Yeah, so, so the prison that I was in, it was

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a maximum security prison is it's a 24 hour lockdowns prison.

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The cell, I couldn't open my arms out in the cell, the toilet

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wasn't a toilet. Was a hole in the back of the wall. So it was

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a very violent and very tragic kind of environment to live in

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when I came to prison. There's a, there's a there was a, an

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inmate legal association called, there were paralegals. It was an

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association of maybe three or four paralegals called the

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inmate legal Association. They knew of me because of, you know,

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I tried my own case. I mean, it was, it was. Big news. They came

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to visit me, and they asked me to join the organization, and I

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agreed, and I went through the selective courses that I needed

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to take, and the warden had to approve me. But what that did

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was that gave me unfettered access to the Law Library. It

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also gave me unfettered access to the entire prison. I was even

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able to go on death row. So in my case, the prosecutor that

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prosecuted me, he was a head prosecutor. He was chosen by the

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governor, so my case was very political. The guy that actually

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prosecuted me was the governor's choice. I knew that when I put

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my appeal in, it was going to get rubber stamped, denied. That

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did two things while I was helping other inmates get

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released from prison, some of the ones that were wrongly

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convicted or and some of the ones that were that were

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overcharged and over sentenced. While I was helping them get

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out, I was also looking for an inmate that was charged with the

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same thing and that went to prison with the same crime that

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I went to prison for. I developed the legal theory that

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the statute was promulgated against legis was enforced

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against legislative intent. I didn't want to use it in my

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case. I wanted to use it in somebody else's case because I

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thought they had a better chance of winning. So I ultimately

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found this person as I was helping other people, I found

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the person that came in had the same charge, same amount of

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time, he had life, and I asked him, I said, Listen, I know you

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have a lawyer, but let me work with your lawyer. I have this

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legal theory I could put in your case. Guys got life so he don't

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have anything to lose. He says, yes, if you can help me out.

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Anything do? Do however way you want. I said, Okay, so I

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formulated theory. I talked to his lawyer. I said I would put

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this legal argument together for your client. We'll put it in one

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of just put it in one of his briefs. And he said, The Lord is

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like, oh, send me what you need to send me to us. I sent it to

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him. He calls me back. Get on the phone. He says, he listen,

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you sure you did this argument? The Lord didn't do this. I said,

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No, I you know, I did that argument. I told him. He says,

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Listen, this is an incredible argument. I'm going to put it in

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the brief. He puts it in the guy gets reversed, makes new law. So

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now I take the new law, I use it in my case. I get my kingpin

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conviction reversed and but let me tell you what they did. They

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vacated the kingpin, vacated my life sentence, but affirmed the

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other convictions. And so now I'm still doing 70 years after

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all that work, that's where the other hearing came in. So what I

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also did, I was also doing civil cases, suing the prisons for

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inmate conditions, medical conditions, things like that.

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And I also sued the state, the prosecutor, the prosecutor's

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office, for wrongful conviction. In one of the suits that I did,

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I want a motion where the court ordered me to be transported

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from a maximum security prison to the prosecutor's office and

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made the prosecutor allow me to look through their files. I was

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there all day. I went. I arrived at eight o'clock in the morning,

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and I looked through files until the office closed that evening,

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and I found a single piece of paper that I used three years

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later to get a police officer to confess that they set me up. It

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was an interoffice memo. It directed the police officers. It

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was a memo that was written before I went to trial by the

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prosecutor himself, to the police officers that was going

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to testify against me. It directed about five officers to

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read my files, to sign it and pass it down to the officer up

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under them. I understood when a police officer takes a stand,

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some of them write reports. Some of them don't what's important

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about a police officer taking a stand is not the report that he

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writes, they are trained to say that they didn't read any other

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reports. It's always good for a police officer to read

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everybody's report so he can get a broad understanding what

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everybody says. But when he takes the stand, he's never

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supposed to say that he read another Officer's Report. And

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here's the reason why, because if you wrote a report, I can

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destroy you before you even take the stand. If the officer that's

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currently understand has read your report, because he could

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testify to his knowledge, his personal knowledge. So if he

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read your report, I can then start impeaching you based on

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the things that he read. I can even introduce your report to

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him and start ripping your report apart. The memo is

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directing these officers to read all the files, which means each

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other's reports. So this is why this is important. I know two

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things those police officers don't know I have this document,

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and I know if I ever get a chance to ask any one of them if

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they read the other officers report, they're going to lie,

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that document is going to say something else. So I get him on

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the stand, and I geared up his honesty and his integrity and

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and he and he was rolling with me. Yes, I said, you're an

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argument. Yes, I am. Is you've done everything. Yes, I did. I

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said, but you wouldn't lie to Police Report. Would you? The

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last thing that you would do is lying at police report, which

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is, No, I never, I would never do that. And the last thing

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officer race would do this is another office would lie in a

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police report. Woody, he says, Officer race. I see officer

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race. The other guy that that, the other detective that

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investigated this case with you. He says, Mr. Wright, I never

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read officer racist report. So I said, Are you sure you never

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read officer racist report? He says, No. I says, Okay, well,

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what about detective Thornburg? Mr. Ryder, I didn't read

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detective Thornburgh. Oh, you didn't read detective

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thornburgh's report either. Oh, I said, what I said, Mr. Wright,

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let me stop you, right there. Here, the only report I read in

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this case is the word that I did. I've read no other report.

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You're under oath. You're going to swear. He says, No, am I

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honor? I understand. I've never read another report. I take out

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the report, and I'm still questioning the witness, and I

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hear him say, can I see that? I can see the blood rushing up his

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neck. He read it to himself. I saw him. I saw his nerve. His

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hands start shaking. He's getting nervous. And I said, Now

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read that to the record. He reads it, all the officers below

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that. Read it, read all the files. I said, Did you sign it?

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He says, Yes, I signed it. Did you date it? I said, Yes, I did.

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You pass any of our officers? He said, Yes. I snatched it from

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his hand, started walking back to my chair, turned around and

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says, So you lied. And all your honor today, you lied to the

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this this court today, didn't you? You lied under oath? He

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stammers. He stammers and stamina. He says, I didn't lie.

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I go tell the truth about what you did. He breaks down. He

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says, I've been holding this in for seven and a half years, and

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I can't hold it anymore. And he starts telling the entire story

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on how they set me up. Oh my god, I was, I was, I don't know

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I was. Like, it was an out of body, experience. Because, in

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the background, my mom, you know, my family, was in the

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courtroom, and she was, she was crying and screaming and yelling

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back at them, why did you do this? Like, why? Why? Why did

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you do this to my son? So it was, like, it was a very

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emotional the reporters was running back in and out of the

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courtroom, because, you know, back then, they used phones, so

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they were running back and forth in and out of the courtroom

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using the phone telling, you know, updating everybody what

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happened, and all that other stuff. And it was a very crazy

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moment. Everything was was vacated, all my sentences, all

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my convictions, was vacated, but the prosecutor wanted to try me

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again and reindict me. So the judge gave me a bail and

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released me. While I was out, a reporter found me and asked me

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about the new trial, and I told I said, I can't wait for a new

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trial, because the things that's going to come out in the new

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trial is going to be 10 times more egregious than what came

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out in my previous trial and what came out at that hearing.

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So I'm I can't wait for a new trial. Two weeks later, they

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dismissed everything and said it wasn't going to try me again.

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Wow. So after you were released, you obtained your

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law degree, and you became the first and only person in US

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history to have been sentenced to life in prison, securing your

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own release and then being granted a license to practice

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law by the very court that condemned you. I mean, you've

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done something that is amazing. You got to argue several cases

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before the Supreme Court, winning three of them. Tell us

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what it's like to when you really firmly believe in

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something, you will stand behind it no matter what.

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Isaac Wright Jr: Oh, until death, and especially if you

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have certain types of experience in life, and you know the

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importance of dying for your belief. And I say this all the

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time, you know people don't understand the importance of

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even representing guilty people. It's not to get a person off.

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It's to protect the innocent. Because what happens is most

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corruption starts with the guilty first, and it spreads

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like a disease to people that were innocent. What happened to

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me was a culmination of the prosecutor doing this to people

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that were actually guilty time and time again and and so when

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it got to me, he was emboldened. He didn't care about guilt or

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innocence anymore. So you know, this is a situation where you

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have to die on principle, not only in order to protect

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yourself, but but to protect the integrity of the system and the

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other and other people that may come after you.

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You are absolutely leaving a legacy. You helped 20

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other people, inmates while in prison and in many, many more

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since, and you're not only leaving a legacy for someone

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that stands up for what's right, but for all of those families.

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What does legacy mean to you?

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Isaac Wright Jr: Legacy hits me hard when I find myself

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preparing legal arguments in court and I'm looking at quoting

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the own the case that I made, I'm I'm reading my name, I'm

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quoting my case as authoritative, and I'm reading

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my own name, and I'm seeing all the things that I went through

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to be able to create this authority that courts have to

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follow. And so it's like legacy to me, means that I can look

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back at the road that I've traveled, and I can compare it

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to all the things that's happening today, and I can see

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that every sweat, every tear, every emotional turmoil, every

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loss that I've taken and the losses of my family is embedded

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in this authoritative law that are helping people on and

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helping lawyers and helping judges On a daily basis. In

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essence, Legacy means the future impact that you have on not only

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the current generations, but generations to come, infinitely

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so and that's and that impact, hopefully is a very, very

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positive one. I mean, legacies can be bad and they can be good,

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and my hope is that my legacy is one of positivity.

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So you represented dozens of inmates while you were

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still in prison and many, many more in the years since your

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release, overturning their own wrongful convictions and helping

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them to freedom. Talk to me about what it feels like to be

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changing their legacies.

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Isaac Wright Jr: It's hard for me to imagine, you know, because

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going through. System is a very individual and individualized

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experience. Some of us that has been through that can relate,

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but when we're through it, we know that it's individualized,

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the way that it affects us differently each time. And then

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you have those who's never been through that, who can only try

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to assess or imagine, you know, how that impacted a person and

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and how that impact changed their lives, for for the better,

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for the for worse. So, you know, I it's very difficult for me to

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to kind of understand how what I've done for people in facts

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and packs them on a personal note, my concentration more is

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on the impact of society than it is on the individual person. But

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what I can say to you, just from my observations and my

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experience, that these changes are profound, not only for the

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person, but for the family. And I don't know one person that

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I've helped that hasn't picked that torch up and and done some

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really good things in their lives, not only for themselves,

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but for other people. So you know, from from my vantage

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point, the impact has been profound for those people.

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Looking at everything you've accomplished

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professionally, with the law and the legacy you've left, how is

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all that different from the legacy you've built for

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yourself. Personally, just as a man?

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Isaac Wright Jr: I mean, it's, it's really day and night, uh,

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specifically, because I can't feel their pain. I know what

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they're going through, but I can't feel their pain. So

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professionally, for me, it's a it's really about the mission,

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and that mission is justice. Personally, it was a very, very

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painful experience. You know, it was a very tragic experience,

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not only for myself, but for my family. And so the gap between

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the experience for me personally and the experience for me

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professionally is profound. In fact, I am aware of my progress.

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I'm aware of my positivity as a professional, but when I was

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going through it, personally, I wasn't even aware of the

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magnitude of the changes that I was making when it was

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happening. I wasn't aware of it. I was so personally engulfed in

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in the fight, I wasn't aware of it. And to this day, it's still

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foggy, you know, because that you can't get, you can't get

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past that tragedy. But professionally, I'm very clear

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on what I'm doing, where I'm going, and how I'm affecting

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people. So yeah, it's totally, it's totally day and night in

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terms of the effect professionally, as opposed to

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personally.

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You've been written about extensively.

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There's been a hit TV series produced by 50 Cent based on

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your life, and now you're telling your story yourself in

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your memoir "Marked for Life". Tell us about the book and the

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significance of the title.

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Isaac Wright Jr: The significance of the title is the

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way in which I found myself, you know, and I guess the best way

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that I can explain it, and these are obviously people who who are

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Abbott hunters, can understand that concept, but a deer walking

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through the woods has no idea that he's in trouble or she's in

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trouble. The marksman that has that deer at his sights is the

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only one that understands the danger that a deer is in, and if

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the deer survives, then he would have a chance at some point to

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understand how much danger that he or she was in. So mark for

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life is a, is, is, is a title that describes this ex parte

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understanding of danger that a person is completely unaware of

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the danger that he is in until he actually is engulfed in it,

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and so you're marked for life first, before your life becomes

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in jeopardy. And that's what the title tries to represent. My

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Mark was my success. I mean, um, the prosecutor that actually

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went after me was was running a criminal enterprise out of his

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office, and it was his office was set up for forfeiture. The

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laws on forfeiture at that time was really lax, and the only

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thing that needed to happen was there a reasonable suspicion

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that you were engaged in crime. They could take your assets, and

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then you'd have to prove, in a civil case, you know, that your

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assets is clean and fair. And so he used that. He used his power

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and the infancy of the forfeiture laws to enrich

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himself and enrich the detectives and other law

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enforcement officers working in that office. And so my mark was

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my success and my wealth, and he got eye of that, and he came

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after it.

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So where can our listeners get the book, and what

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do you most hope they'll take away from reading it?

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Isaac Wright Jr: The book is available in every major

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bookstore, and it's also universally online through

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Amazon. So it's readily it's readily available in terms of

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reading it. What they get from it as human beings? You know,

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there's, there's a saying, there's, there's, there's eight.

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Million stories in a Naked City, that that's something that that

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came out of New York, you know, with 8 million people, but that

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that has a lot of a lot of substance to it. I mean, we all,

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each individual life has a story, but there's certain

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common denominators. And the in the book, The what I'm hoping

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that people get from the book when they read it is a common

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denominator that we all have as human beings going through our

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story, and that is that some of the hard answers, some of the

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ways of overcoming the more significant challenges that we

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face in life, is within ourselves, and sometimes the

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expectation that others are going to come to our rescue is

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misplaced in ways where that answer, that that savior is

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yourself, that individual that's going to pick you up and help

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you along the way is your own intuition, your own judgment and

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your in your own essence. And sometimes we have to leak reach

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deep down into ourselves for answers, because there's a lot

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of people that out there that believe that life is hopeless.

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There's a lot of people that encounter challenges that appear

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to be hopeless. There's a lot of people that believe that they're

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alone, and sometimes, you know, we've lost ourselves from

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finding our own self. So I believe that the best thing that

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can come out of this book is when all else fails for an

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individual that they have the ability within to find that

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thing that God has given them, to pull themselves out of the

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problems that they're having, and at that point, you know,

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seek additional help, but but the answer begins within, and

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that's what I'm hoping that that the book inspires people to

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believe to believe in themselves and their own abilities.

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Isaac Wright, Jr, thank you so much for joining us

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today. Really appreciate your time.

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Isaac Wright Jr: I appreciate it. Thank you for having me.

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Let's Talk Legacy
Presented by Southwestern Legacy Insurance Group
What does it mean to build and maintain a legacy, either in business, or for your loved ones? What tools and resources are available to help? Join the discussion as host Gary Michels, along with exciting guests and real listeners just like you, tackle the answers to these questions, and learn how to grow today, for a better tomorrow.



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